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cyberxxx
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Posts: 527
03. Feb 2007. 13:45:40
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Formula 1
Red je da se otvori i ova tema. Blizi se pocetak nove sezone a iskreno odlaskom Schumija nista me kao prethodnih godina ne tera na razmisljanje i zeljno iscekivanje pocetka sezone. Naravno svi imaju svoje favorite, moj je bio kralj. Poslednje dve sezone su mu bile najgore ali cini mi se da su bile najuzbudljivije. Nema veze to sa onim trkama od pre 8, 9, 10... godina. Svake sezone se uvode neka nova pravila, nova ogranicenja a sve u cilju povecanja sigurnosti, sto je cini veoma dosadnom, uglavnom se sve resava na kvalifikacijama. Pojedine trke me toliko razocaraju da mi je mnogo uzbudljivije izaci nocu na beogradske ulice i sam ucestvovati u nasem najbrzem cirkusu.
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CatchMeIfYouCan
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#72
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Posts: 2575
09. Sep 2007. 16:35:06
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Italian GP - Rezultati
Italian Grand Prix result, Monza, 53 laps
1. ALONSO Mclaren 1h18m37.806s
2. HAMILTON McLaren +6.0s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari +27.3s
4. HEIDFELD BMW +56.5s
5. KUBICA BMW +1m00.5s
6. ROSBERG Williams +1m05.8s
7. KOVALAINEN Renault +1m06.7s
8. BUTTON Honda +1m12.1s
9. WEBBER Red Bull +1m15.9s
10. BARRICHELLO Honda +1m16.9s
11. TRULLI Toyota +1m17.7s
12. FISICHELLA Renault +1 lap
13. WURZ Williams +1 lap
14. DAVIDSON Super Aguri +1 lap
15. R SCHUMACHER Toyota +1 lap
16. SATO Super Aguri +1 lap
17. LIUZZI Toro Rosso +1 lap
18. VETTEL Toro Rosso +1 lap
19. SUTIL Spyker +1 lap
20. YAMAMOTO Spyker +1 lap
R. MASSA Ferrari +43 laps
R. COULTHARD Red Bull +52 laps
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#73
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Posts: 2575
09. Sep 2007. 16:36:08
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Monza
Zao mi Masse sto je imao problema sa autom, ali jeste li vidjeli kako je Hamilton presao Raikkonena koji nije ne skuzio da ga ovaj prelazi. Dobra trka 
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_nobody_
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Posts: 39
10. Sep 2007. 04:24:22
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Monza
Massa je imao problema jer je izgleda u hipu naleteo na ostatke Coulthardovoh stabilizatora koji mu je ostetio/unistio sistem za upravljanje. 
Video sam kako je Luis prosao Raikkonena sa unutrasnje (desne) strane shikane, McLaren ima bolji bolid nego Ferrari, a i gde su ti Ferrarijevi observeri da Raikkonenu ukazu na Hamiltona?! 
Opste je poznato da Raikkonen NE rizikuje, a da je Hamilton vrlo agresivan vozac. Raikkonen je pozicioni vozac koji za Ferrari NE cini nesto mnogo narocito. Michael Shumaher je bio Alpha i Omega u Ferrariju jer se cova razumeo u sve (i u voznju, i u design, i u mehaniku). Raikkonen se u malo sta razume, osim u voznju.
Kubica je neko na koga treba obratiti paznju. Vozi za BMW, ali je prevazisao taj auto. Ako Ferrari misli da ucini pomak unapred, trebalo bi da Kubici ponudi mesto prvog vozaca.
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Cyberxxx
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#75
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Posts: 1461
12. Sep 2007. 20:19:18
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Potpisujem ovo odozgo
Nije Shumi bio kralj zbog voznje, nego svega onoga sto rezultira dobrom voznjom. Pored njega im nisu bile potrebne analize racunara. Sve mane bolida je znao da prepozna. Treninzi mu nisu sluzili za obaranje rekorda i takmicenja ko je brzi, nego za stelovanje motora, stabilizatora i dovodjenje bolida u top formu za kvalifikacije i trku .
Ferari dalje ovako ne moze. Ili dovesti coveka koji ce uraditi pripreme u boxu ili vozaca koji ce umeti da "dise" sa bolidom
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#76
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Posts: 2575
13. Sep 2007. 21:18:45
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D - day za McLaren
Danas je bio odlucujuci dan za Mclaren. Sud je donio odluku da se svi timski bodovi McLarena obrisu / oduzmu zbog pocinjene spijunaze prema Ferrariju. Na svu srecu Alonso i Hamilton nisu kaznjeni kao vozaci tako da i dalje mogu voziti i dalje se mogu boriti za pobjednika sezone.
Zadovoljna sam odlukom jer su medije cijeli dan spekulirale da bi mogli McLaren totalno izbaciti iz F1 za ovu godinu. To ipak ne bi bilo fer prema vozacima.
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_nobody_
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Posts: 39
14. Sep 2007. 04:40:18
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Spying doesn’t pay
McLaren stripped of constructors’ points and fined $100 million in Formula One spy case By ROB MURRAY, AP Sports Writer
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Accused of using leaked secret data from its main rival Ferrari, the Formula One team McLaren was hit with a record $100 million fine Thursday by the World Motor Sport Council in the biggest scandal to hit auto racing’s premier circuit.
Although McLaren drivers Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso escaped punishment Thursday, the espionage claims have rocked the sport and tainted McLaren’s lead in the drivers’ standings.
The team, also stripped of its constructors’ points, already was battling accusations that it had used team orders to decide which driver would win races this season. Now, it is facing a new crisis.
And it’s not the only major sports franchise accused of espionage. The New England Patriots have been accused of violating league rules by videotaping New York Jets coaches sending defensive signals to players. And at the women’s World Cup in China, Denmark team officials found two men with video cameras sitting behind a two-way mirror in a hotel conference room where the team was about to hold a strategy meeting.
The F1 case broke in July when a 780-page technical dossier on Ferrari cars was found at the home of McLaren’s chief designer, Mike Coughlan, who was later suspended. Ferrari mechanic Nigel Stepney, who allegedly supplied the documents, was fired.
McLaren escaped censure by the World Motor Sport Council in July due to insufficient evidence that Ferrari’s technical documents were misused. But Honda’s revelations that Stepney and Coughlan had approached team boss Nick Fry in June about joining the F1 team whipped up further concerns over Ferrari’s intellectual property.
The $100 million fine imposed on McLaren is 40 times larger than the previous F1 record ($2.5 million).
Still, Dennis argued the fine is effectively halved because McLaren doesn’t have to forfeit any revenue it’s earned this season. He added that the financial strength of McLaren also would help absorb the impact of the fine.
``We still effectively have as an offset the revenue from the point earned to date,’’ he said. ``That will probably effectively halve the size of the check that we ultimately have to sign -- if we ultimately accept this fine.
``We turn over roughly $450 million to $500 million a year and we are debt free, so we’re a very strong company (with) phenomenal growth.’’
And it likely won’t cost McLaren the Formula One drivers’ title.
Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, who lead the drivers’ standings, are well ahead of Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa with four races left.
Hamilton, in his debut Formula One season, leads with 92 points, followed by two-time champion Alonso with 89. Raikkonen (74) and Massa (69) are third and fourth. And Alonso and Hamilton finished 1-2 in Sunday’s Italian GP -- at Ferrari’s home track of Monza.
FIA said it did not penalize McLaren’s drivers ``due to exceptional circumstances’’ because they provided evidence in exchange for immunity.
Asked whether the futures of Hamilton and Alonso at McLaren had been compromised by the scandal, McLaren chief Ron Dennis said the two drivers remain under contract.
``We have contracts with both of our drivers, multiyear contracts, and there has been no discussion about varying them,’’ Dennis said. ``We have two of the best drivers in the world. If there is any variation to those contracts then it will be by mutual agreement.’’
The World Motor Sport Council ruled in July that McLaren was guilty of fraudulent conduct for possessing the Ferrari documents, but didn’t punish the team because there was insufficient evidence the material was misused. However, the sport’s governing body (FIA) called a new hearing of the council last week after ``new evidence’’ had emerged.
Dennis said the evidence given by his drivers, engineers and staff on Thursday clearly demonstrated that his team did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage.
``The evidence today was primarily e-mail traffic between our drivers, and in one instance, Mike Coughlan,’’ Dennis said. ``These were a few e-mails and the drivers have stated categorically that no information was passed to the team, and of course, the team had no knowledge of this e-mail traffic at any stage.’’
Among those appearing at the hearing before the 26-member council were Hamilton, Dennis and McLaren test driver Pedro De La Rosa. Alonso did not attend.
``There will be no issue for the 2008 season as we have not at any stage used any intellectual property of any other team,’’ Dennis said.
Also under Thursday’s ruling, McLaren is ineligible from earning any more points in the final races of the season.
``Ferrari is satisfied that the truth has now emerged,’’ the Italian team said in a statement.
McLaren escaped the harshest possible penalty -- banishment for it and its drivers from the 2007 and 2008 championships. The England-based team said it will wait for FIA to publish its findings Friday before deciding whether to appeal, but Dennis said that his future plans to hand over control to McLaren COO Martin Whitmarsh won’t be expedited because of the scandal.
``My personal future was never in question as far as I was concerned,’’ Dennis said. ``I am very committed to this company, I am very passionate about motor racing and I have absolutely no intention of retiring.’’
Separately, McLaren was notified Saturday that it is being investigated in a separate criminal inquiry in Italy. Dennis and five other team members are reportedly under investigation.
Those allegations stem from Ferrari’s criminal case against Stepney for allegedly placing a mysterious white powder on the gas tanks of the team’s cars before the Monaco Grand Prix, in a supposed sabotage attempt.
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Cyberxxx
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#78
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Posts: 1461
23. Sep 2007. 00:57:06
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Proradilo!!!
Catch ili No iskopirajte rezultate kad budete mogli. Pozz
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Cyberxxx
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Posts: 1461
23. Sep 2007. 00:57:14
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Proradilo!!!
Catch ili No iskopirajte rezultate kad budete mogli. Pozz
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CatchMeIfYouCan
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#80
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Posts: 2575
29. Sep 2007. 13:24:25
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Belgium Grand Prix rezultati
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 44 1:20:39.066 1 10
2 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 44 +4.6 secs 2 8
3 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 44 +14.3 secs 3 6
4 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 44 +23.6 secs 4 5
5 9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 44 +51.8 secs 6 4
6 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 44 +76.8 secs 5 3
7 15 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 44 +80.6 secs 7 2
8 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 44 +85.1 secs 9 1
9 10 Robert Kubica BMW 44 +85.6 secs 14
10 11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 44 +88.5 secs 10
11 12 Jarno Trulli Toyota 44 +103.653 secs 8
12 18 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari 43 +1 Lap 13
13 8 Rubens Barrichello Honda 43 +1 Lap 17
14 20 Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 43 +1 Lap 19
15 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 43 +1 Lap 18
16 23 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 43 +1 Lap 22
17 21 Sakon Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 43 +1 Lap 20
Ret 7 Jenson Button Honda 36 Hydraulics 12
Ret 17 Alexander Wurz Williams-Toyota 34 Fuel pressure 15
Ret 14 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 29 Hydraulics 11
Ret 19 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 8 Steering 16
Ret 3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1 Suspension damage 21
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#81
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Posts: 2575
29. Sep 2007. 13:27:26
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F1 Japan - Kvalifikacije
JAPANESE GP GRID
1. HAMILTON McLaren
2. ALONSO McLaren
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari
4. MASSA Ferrari
5. HEIDFELD BMW
6. BUTTON Honda
7. WEBBER Red Bull
8. VETTEL Toro Rosso
9. KUBICA BMW
10. FISICHELLA Renault
11. KOVALAINEN Renault
12. COULTHARD Red Bull
13. TRULLI Toyota
14. LIUZZI Toro Rosso
15. SCHUMACHER Toyota
16. ROSBERG Williams*
17. BARRICHELLO Honda
18. WURZ Williams
19. DAVIDSON Super Aguri
20. SUTIL Spyker
21. SATO Super Aguri
22. YAMAMOTO Spyker
* after 10-place engine change penalty
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CatchMeIfYouCan
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#82
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Posts: 2575
30. Sep 2007. 18:37:11
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Japan Grand Prix - Rezultati
Japanese Grand Prix, Fuji Speedway - 67 laps
1. HAMILTON McLaren 2h00m34.579s
2. KOVALAINEN Renault +8.4s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari +9.5s
4. COULTHARD Red Bull +20.3s
5. FISICHELLA Renault +38.9s
6. MASSA Ferrari +49.0s
7. KUBICA BMW +49.3s
8. SUTIL Spyker +1m00.1s*
9. LIUZZI Toro Rosso +1m20.6s*
10. BARRICHELLO Honda +1m28.3s
11. BUTTON Honda +1 lap
12. YAMAMOTO Spyker +1 lap
13. TRULLI Toyota +1 lap
14. HEIDFELD BMW +2 laps
15. SATO Super Aguri +2 laps
R. SCHUMACHER Toyota +12 laps
R. DAVIDSON Super Aguri +13 laps
R. ROSBERG Williams +18 laps
R. VETTEL Toro Rosso +21 laps
R. WEBBER Red Bull +22 laps
R. ALONSO McLaren +26 laps
R. WURZ Williams +48 laps
Fastest lap: HAMILTON 1m28.193s (lap 27)
* Liuzzi given 25s penalty, promoting Sutil to 8th
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#83
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Posts: 2575
30. Sep 2007. 18:41:02
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Jutros se jedva ustala u rane sate kako ne bih propustila F1 u Japanu.
Obozavam pocetak trke, ali nista od toga. Lose vrijeme, kisa pljusti, trka pocinje pod security car-om i tako nekoliko krugova dok se malo kisa nije smirila.
Hamiltom je pobijedio i u ovako losim uvjetima.
Alonso je udario u zid, mora da se pojeo jer mu je to najmanje danas bilo potrebno.
Ferrari je napravio tavku gresku sto su poslali bolide sa intermediate gumama, a lijepo je bilo rceno da moraju ici sa extremely hard gumama i na kraju se i Raikkonen i Massa vracali u pit stop po 3- 4 puta i pored svega su dobro i zavrsili.
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#84
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Posts: 2575
08. Oct 2007. 00:48:08
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Chinese GP - rezultati
Chinese Grand Prix result - 56 laps
1. RAIKKONEN Ferrari
2. ALONSO McLaren +9.8s
3. MASSA Ferrari +12.8s
4. VETTEL Toro Rosso +53.5s
5. BUTTON Honda +1m08.6s
6. LIUZZI Toro Rosso +1m13.6s
7. HEIDFELD BMW +1m14.2s
8. COULTHARD Red Bull +1m20.7s
9. KOVALAINEN Renault +1m21.1s
10. WEBBER Red Bull +1m24.6s
11. FISICHELLA Renault +1m26.6s
12. WURZ Williams +1 lap
13. TRULLI Toyota +1 lap
14. SATO Super Aguri +1 lap
15. BARRICHELLO Honda +1 lap
16. ROSBERG Williams +2 laps
17. YAMAMOTO Spyker +3 laps
R. KUBICA BMW +23 laps
R. HAMILTON McLaren +26 laps
R. SCHUMACHER Toyota +31 laps
R. SUTIL Spyker +32 laps
R. DAVIDSON Super Aguri +45 laps
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albandy2
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Posts: 5214
08. Oct 2007. 18:55:12
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Kimmi
Kad sam na pocetku negde osma trka napisao da je ovogodisnje prvenstvo F1 cista politika neki su se smejali.A ja i dalje tvrdim da jeste.Uzeli sum im bodove jer su navodno koristili tudje podatke a vozaci koji su sedeli u tim bolidima i nista to je kao sto neko rece cura mi je malo trudna sad jeste ili nije .Ili uzmi sve ili nista.Koliko je sve ok vidi se po odnosu Alonso, Hamilton.Ili je doslo vreme da se vrati ulozeno oko 4miliona dolara u Hamiltona,od strane sefa ekipe.Od kada se suska za koje kakve mucke Hamilton sve cesce i cesce posrce,ili je to neki drugi deo dogovora da se nebi oterala publika sa trkalista do kraja sezone da su im odmah uzeli i bodove......Kako je vec vidjeno u zadnju trku ulaze sva trojica sa nekakvom sansom za titulu.Ne bih zeleo da u toj igri dolara neko nastrada jer sad je sve moguce previse je zuci u casi ,a jos vise para.Neznam kolio je ko gledao trku i kako ali ja sam ,a posle i na snimku vec dva kruga pre ulaska u box video tu belu straftu na Hamiltonovom tocku ,sto ga nisu zvali u box....Ko se tu igra sa zivotima ljudi.A ono sto je naj gore od svega je da Kimmi moze da osvoji sest pobeda i da nebude prvak F1 sto je jako zalosno ili govori o tome da sistem bodovanja nije adekvatan.Naravno da se zakljuciti da navijam za Ferrari ,ali pre svega za njihovu sigurnost jer bih voleo da i sledece sezone vidim sve vozace na novim trkama.Pozdrav
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